Recruiting and renewing members

Then matter concluded on my part too

Yo tambien soy como soy

I exposed the facts and did end my part of the discussion. All I needed to say is said and my opinion is what it is as I am who I am and will not change and only carry on an evolution in the respect of my convictions.

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Marika

As I have said before, I am not going to enter into an endless discussion, but you know perfectly well that this problem you are exposing is nothing more than that, a problem

Are you happy with your behavior? Well then, calm down and move on.

Now, I hope you continue as you are now without being aware of who I am with or who I stop going with and if I do this or I do the other, and I am not going to give examples because you know it as well as I do.

And frankly I do not want or want to talk more about this, it tires me.

And yes Marika, I am very proud to be a Lady of Noir

And I abide by the rules like all the ladies

And I insist there is neither simple nor ordinary lady of Noir, they are all excellent and the best in RLC

I hope this ends this discussion that does not lead anywhere

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Como he dicho antes no voy a entrar en una discusion sin fin.Pero sabes perfectamente que ese problema que expones no es mas que eso ,un problema

Tu estas feliz con tu comportamiento? Pues entonces tranquila y sigue adelante.

Ahora bien ,espero que sigas como ahora sin estar pendiente de con quien voy o dejo de ir y si hago esto o hago lo otro.Y no voy a dar ejemplos porque lo sabes tambien como yo

Y francamente no quiero ni deseo hablar mas sobre esto ,me cansa .

Y si Marika ,estoy muy orgullosa de ser una Dama de Noir

Y cumplo las normas como todas las damas

Y insisto no hay ni simple ni ordinaria dama de Noir.Todas son excelentes y las mejores en RLC

Espero que con esto se acaba esta discusion que no lleva a ningun sitio

It's your turn to listen Rita Dame Noir. All the examples outside the situation only define with different words the same definition on which I exposed and agreed to.

So I am going without detour and without lying to re-establish the facts and the facts only. At first I was in my zaby elaborating decorations. At one point this member jumped to my position without warning or being invited. As I am polite I did not expulse him. From that point on he has emphatically expressed his desire to make love to me at this time and at my zaby. I explained to him that his position and his level of bronze member did not allow him to have a session outside the palace. Always insistently he asked me to make an exception. And once again I refused, explaining to him that to do this he had to be a gold member and explained to him how to do it with the lady of his choice. After several attempts on his part, I went to the palace and asked him to join me. And it is at this moment that he transferred to my account the amount to upgrade to gold. I informed our boss who confirmed the change of status. I must point out that this member was well aware of who he had enrolled with and he and only he decided to upgrade otherwise.  Should a lady refuse an upgrade out of respect for an other, NO!  Did I mentioned to that member that the lady he had renew with may not be happy? I did by refusing his insistence and explaining the rules of Noir in matter of Bronze versus Gold.

The rest is simple the member always insisting on enjoying a session with me at my zaby  and was now gold. So, by his situation and his status, he had the right to do so.
However, there was no lack of respect on my part or abuse of the situation in the facts. If there was any lack of respect it was from that member attitude and insistence. My version only relates the facts and only the facts. What this member may have added or invented to justify his position is only important to him and the frustration he has caused to you. Had he simply sent you an email and transferred the funds to you he would have kept your respect.  But he would not have had the session he was so eager to have at the time he wanted it and where he wanted it.  So, he and only he is responsible and I have no shame in doing my Noir duty.

Personally I proceeded according to the written and silent rules in the respect and the jurisprudence of these same rules and without intention to harm anyone. If, as it seems the case, the version of this member takes precedence over mine, that does not matter to me because I know in my soul and conscience that I have applied the rules which are beneficial to both the member, any other lady and Noir.

Finally, I can only repeat that members have the right, with impunity, to register, renew or upgrade with the lady of their choice at the time they wish to. I always pointed out to any member in those situations that if the lady they are to deal with is not present, they have the option to email her and transfer the funds to her.  If a member decides otherwise and proceeds with a different lady, he and only he is in power to do so.  The lady, like I always do. has informed the member of his options, that lady has no shame or culpability in accepting that member. Should a lady refuse a member on the base he is theoretically in a relation with an other lady?  That is a debate we can have indefinitely but every situation broils down to the same.

I hope this will make my position clear in your mind and I assure you that at no point did I want, act or talk in a way to lack respect to you or the member.  In my mind and my actions I did take in consideration all written and unwritten rules.  And, the common sense was more than applied, it was explained to the member.  My words are the truthful version of the events and I never did lie or invented any fact.

On this I rest my case with in my hart the satisfaction of having made all possible to allow the respect of the rules, the members and any colleague. I am a simple Noir lady whit no other ambition than being respected and respecting others.

I love democracy .. δημοκρατία !

Look marika

Things are much simpler than they seem and it is not necessary to adorn it so much or to typify it so much

I am going to give you a very simple example so that you understand. When a person commits a crime there are written laws that penalize him. When two friends or acquaintances normally cross each other on the street, the right thing to do is to say hello to each other. It calls common sense, but there is no written law that obliges it to do it, but we do it even though it is not written because it is the right thing to do. Which is true derives from the traditions. And in many of those unwritten daily actions there enters the RESPECT that is essential for coexistence. And it does not take a great engineer to understand and understand these things. And when all else fails It is when the written laws come into action, but on many occasions, exercising common sense avoids reaching them.

As for mistakes, we all make mistakes, no one escapes because no one is perfect, but when a person is able to realize his mistake and the possible damage that he has caused to a third party and is able to ask for excuses or forgiveness then your action may even outweigh the mistake you made.

I personally give great importance to those small details that we do daily and that help us without being written anywhere but that are as the tradition of common sense says.

And the most important thing for me is RESPECT

Respect to the others

Respect we deserve to have

And I respect ourselves, because if we don't respect ourselves, nothing works

And to finish, I would not like this to become a replica and a counter-replica, I do not think it would be positive to know who is more right, besides that the reason is many times according to which eyes you look at it. That is why the small details are so important from day to day even if they are not written.

Rita honored to be a Lady of Noir and proud to be

Mira Marika

Las cosas son mucho mas sencillas de lo que parecen y no hace falta adornarlo tanto ni tipificarlo tanto

Te voy a poner un ejemplo muy simple para que se entienda.Cuando una persona comete un delito hay unas leyes escritas que lo penalizan.Cuando dos amigas o conocidas se cruzan por la calle normalmente ,lo correcto es que se saluden ,es lo que se llama el sentido comun,pero no hay ninguna ley escrita que obligue hacerlo¡¡pero lo hacemos aunque no este escrito porque es lo correcto.Y como esta accion hay multitud de otras que no necesitan estar escritas ,se hacen porque asi lo manda el sentido comun.El cual es verdad deriva de las tradiciones .Y en muchas de esas aciones diarias no escritas entra el RESPETO que es esencial para la convivencia.Y no hace falta ser un gran ingeniero para entender y comprender estas cosas.Y cuando todo esto falla es cuando entran en accion las leyes escritas,Pero en muchas ocasiones ejerciendo el sentido comun se evita llegar a ellas.

En cuanto a los errores.todas,todos cometemos errores,nadie se escapa porque nadie es perfecto.Pero cuando una persona es capaz de darse cuenta de su error y del posible daño que ha ocasionado a un tercero y es capaz de pedir excusas o perdon entonces su accion puede incluso superar el error cometido.

Yo personalmente le doy mucha importancia e esos pequeños detalles que realizamos a diario y que nos ayudan sin que esten escritos en ningun sitio pero que son como dice la tradicion de sentido comun

Y lo mas importante para mi es el RESPETO

Respeto hacia los demas

Respeto que merecemos tener

Y respeto a una misma ,porque si no nos respetamos a nosotras mismas ,nada sirve

Y para acabar no me gustaria que esto se convirtiera en una replica y una contrareplica,no creo que fuera positivo saber quien tiene mas razon,ademas que la razon es muchas veces segun con que ojos se mira.Por eso son tan importantes los pequeños detalles del dia a dia aunque no esten escritos.

Rita honrada de ser una Dama de Noir y orgullosa de serlo

By definition, Unwritten rules (synonyms: Unspoken rules) are behavioral constraints imposed in organizations or societies that are not voiced or written down. They usually exist in unspoken and unwritten format because they form a part of the logical argument or course of action implied by tacit assumptions.

Therefore such rules are based on experiences and are transmitted true examples and or education. Such teachings must take place via discussions and some sort of communication. One holding the experience in an organization has the responsibility to transmit those rules in a way it will benefit the members and the organization. Or, he or she may opte to through those rules to the face of others in a way to benefit himself.

In other words, unwritten rules being the heritage from the experiences of the seniors, they are an unspoken responsibility requiring more than just reprimand. They are the essence of keeping an organization on the wright track and to allow all the members to work in harmony. Agreeing to any rule written or not is a process that requires education, practice and comprehension.

Again, rules of any sort or level need to have a base that is visible emotionally, physically and it needs to pocess a direction. In any line of work circumstances, environement and experiences are becoming the bases of unwritten rules. For some they are a tool for others a weapon depending how they are applied.

So to the unwritten rules you are referring to l demand a clear definition, an honest and simple code of conduct and that all be made aware. Not by reprimand or after the fact, but in a specific and logical definition. What one calls commune sens is complete nunesens for others. Most conflicts were initiated on misinterpreted actions or simple lack of dialogue.

I am opened to learning and mature enough to admit my errors as only errors allow experiences that will benefit both the unwritten and the organization.

Marika

I realize that you feel alluded to by my comment. First with regard to the unwritten rules, maybe it is that you do not understand them well. Noir has defined rules but there are also other rules that are not written but are common sense and that is what I will always defend. Noir has to be impeccable in everything and I mean it well in everything. In any case, you have to strive to be it. As for the opinions of Simoni or Adela or another lady are your opinions. Simoni is the boss of Noir who built and built Noir But that does not mean that you always agree with her, I don't think Simoni likes to always be told YES. You don't always have to say yes to everything! The greatest wealth of a group is precisely its diversity, the wealth of different opinions. And to channel and channel all this there are written rules and what we call common sense or unwritten. All the ladies of Noir or almost all of us have had unfortunate experiences and what? it is part of this work.

And is Noir the priority? Of course it is. But not in any way! Everything is not valid! And as for all the ladies, forgive me for rectifying you, but not all the ladies act correctly and you know it perfectly, that's why there are ladies who are expelled from Noir, because their behavior is not correct.

I do not pretend to be moralizing nor do I pretend to be

That yes, one more thing Marika. Do not say that you are an ordinary Lady of Noir! That does not exist

All the ladies of Noir, I say well, we are all exceptional, we are the best of RLC and that is how it has to be and that they envy us seems very good to me.

I rest very well and I am glad to know that you care about my rest, and more after what you say. Just one more thing, members who wish to be with me do so freely and of their own free will, they are free to go with whoever they want if they wish.

Peace for you too

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I realize that you feel alluded to by my comment. First regarding the unwritten rules, maybe it's that you don't understand well. Noir has defined rules but there are also other rules that are not written but are common sense and that is what I will always defend. Noir has to be impeccable in everything and I mean well in everything. In any case, he has to strive to be so. But that does not mean that they always agree. Not correctly. We do not always try to say yes to everything! The greatest wealth of a group is precisely the diversity, the richness in the different opinions. All the ladies of Noir, at least the oldest ones. And that Noir is the priority, of course it is. But not in any way! Everything is not valid! And as for all the ladies, forgive me for rectifying you, but Not all the ladies act correctly and you know it perfectly, that is why there are prisoners who are expelled from Noir, because they have not acted, I intend to moralize because it is not my responsibility to do so.

I rest very well and I am glad to know that you care about my rest, and even more after what you say. Just one more thing, the members who wish to be with me do so freely and of their own free will, they are free to go with whoever they want if they wish.

Peace for you too

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Marika

Me doy cuenta que te sientes aludida por mi comentario.Primero en cuanto a las reglas no escritas ,quizas es que no comprendes bien.Noir tiene unas reglas definidas pero tambien hay otras normas que no estan escritas pero que son de sentido comun y eso lo defendere siempre.Noir tiene que ser impecable en todo y digo bien en todo.En todo caso tiene que esforzarse en serlo.Los comentarios de Simoni son los cometarios de SImoni ,es la jefa de Noir la que edifico todo esto y ha hecho grande Noir,pero eso no quiere decir que siempre se este de acuerdo.No se trata de decir siempre si a todo¡¡¡La mayor riqueza de un grupo es precisamente la diversidad ,la reiqueza en las diferentes opiniones .Eso si tiene que haber unas reglas bien definidas para organizar y construir.Experiencias desafortunadas creo que las hemos tenido todas las damas de noir ,al menos las mas antiguas.Y que Noir es la prioridad ,por supuesto que si.Pero no de cualquier forme ¡¡Todo no vale ¡¡Y en cuento a todas las damas,perdona que te rectifique ,pero no todas las damas actuan correctamente y tu lo sabes perfectamente ,por eso hay dams que son expulsadas de Noir ,porque no han actuado correctamente.No pretendo moralizar porque no me corresponde a mi hacerlo.

Yo descanso muy bien y me alegra saber que te preocupas por mi descanso,y aun mas despues de lo que dices.Solo una cosa mas ,los miembros que desean estar conmigo lo hacen libremente y por su propia voluntad,libres son de ir con quien quieran si asi lo desean

Paz para ti tambien

Rita you point of view is acknowledged. But those unwritten rules you mention I only ear it from you. Never has anyone else ever mentioned them. Even Simoni comment on this forum is confirming what is written from me and Adela. I understand that you may had have some unfortunate experiences in the past but I also understand that Noir is the priority and as all ladies we are acting according to the profit of Noir. Again I hear you and for that I will respect you UNWRITTEN rules as far as it concerns you and some members. Actually I already am no longer engaging with anyone related to you. So rest in peace as my action and behavior will no longer interact with you. I am an ordinary Noir lady making the best according to the written rules dictated to me.

I have to say that I do not fully agree with what has been exposed here

I am very sorry but from experience and from many examples of other ladies and members things are not as explained here. I will try to explain myself. There are Noir's rules of conduct that have to be followed, but there are also some unwritten rules Among the ladies who have to be complied with, and are respectful of each other and not thinking that anything goes to make a member, Noir cannot be a jungle where "anything goes" prevails. There are various examples that could be given.

And we have members or potential members. Among them there are those who come to "fuck" with the first lady they meet. But there are members who come after the lady they like, just for that lady and there are also quite a few examples It is not that Noir's lady has it exclusively because of her decision, it is the client who wishes for different reasons. It is the client who decides to want to be with that lady and not with others. There are those who even get married. He became obsessed with the lady as happened in the past with a famous former member who even got one of the ladies unhinged. There was a member who only came for two ladies, with one being his slave and the other acting as dominant.

I could give many more examples, but also say that those members always or almost always renewed with the same lady and it was not necessary to remind her, even when another lady tried because she said that she already had it planned.

Then there are the members who cease to be for different reasons and many ladies continue in contact with them because they can and many do it again to noir. It is like a process that culminates when the ex returns to Noir and the lady feels happy because she has managed to But sometimes it happens due to a lack of information, although the ex does not make it explicit, that another lady renews it and that perhaps creates in the first lady as a feeling of not having been able to finish the process happily. The ending is good for Noir, it means a new member, but is the behavior correct?

I also think that the lady who renews a member has to be the one who does a more intense follow-up, who cares more about hers. Then that same member will decide by her actions if he wants more of her presence or if he wants to be with others .

I don't know if I'm managing to explain myself and I also have to translate it, I hope so.

But I want to say another thing before I finish. I think that many members when they come to Noir they do not find the lady they want to see maybe. It would be good, it is my opinion that all the ladies had a minimum of presence in Noir and thus a member at the same time. better not have to wait long to be with that lady that you like so much

And with that said, a hug for all my sisters

I am Rita I am honored to be the Lady of Noir and proud to be

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Thank you Ms Simoni ! As I was told otherwise I am relieved my actions are in the line of conduct of Noir

I agree to the above considerations by Marika and Adela. Members are not given to anyone and daily we need to verify by own actions their satisfaction in Noir Palace group properties.

I like to bring back a point about member registration, renewal and upgrade. Some members change there lady of renewal every month others are with the same and it may happen that a member decide on the moment to upgrade. I believe it is entirely the member decision to act and choose when and with who he does register, renew or upgrade. I was often told we as lady do not own the member. We are to serve them at the moment they require our services . We have no obligation and should we be ashamed that a member decide to register, renew or upgrade with one or the other. I repeat and you may ask any member, they must feel free in there decisions. And whether he or she solicit or we as lady doing our job, we convince the member to act true us, it is again the member choice and it should in no circumstances create frictions or and frustrations among us.

I noticed 14 members that are over due to renew et an other 3 that are soon. Except for a few I have rarely or never seen those members at the Palace or at our parties. Again we may think vacations time is guilty and pandemic creating a RAY shortage, but members should always be informed of there renewal date. An email or a PM is easily done and it allow keeping in touch, Communication is a must to keep our members. We should never take for granted a member renewal even if he or her has done so for many months. Most ex-members will claim there abandon because of real life imperatives. But if they are in RLC and active we must do all we can to keep in touch and motivate them to renew at Noir. Lets keep the spirit and maintain Noir as the number one Club of RLC